Ray Jones Versus MFI Ltd

This transcript has a running commentary;
 
» To inform you of what is actually happening in the lodge

» To point out evidence that proves Ray's Supervisor is a bully
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[RJ - I go straight in to the back to make a cup of tea] 

Billy Taylor: Go through the messages from last night 

[RJ – Notice there is no “Hello Ray” – just a bad attitude from the start!] 

R Jones: Do you deny saying tough like? 

Billy Taylor: Yer, I do – childish comment, you said an awful lot as well - notice my replies to what you said aren’t in there 

R Jones: No, the thing is…… Billy: No, I’m not going to argue, I’ve been told not to argue with you  

[RJ - I am attempting to request book 31 again & because he doesn't want to give it to me under any circumstances, he refuses to speak to me]

R Jones: Are you going to give me book 31? 

Billy Taylor: I’ll give you copies that’s as per the company’s response & whatever you want, I’ve told you before write in there, I’ll get you copies. 

R Jones: I want the book, I want the whole book. 

Billy Taylor: HR says you can’t 

R Jones: What do you mean HR can’t, I can… its for my appeal 

Billy Taylor: You can’t, it’s the company’s…… Well ok, speak to HR, I’ve been told not to argue with you & I’m not going to. 

[RJ – He’s written in the book that I can have photocopies & now he’s saying I can’t have it & he doesn’t want to argue about it – that’s my supervisor! Why is HR saying that this is the company’s response when 3 people from the Union have told me to request it.. He’s about to start on my message about the plates now..] 

Billy Taylor: What’s that got to do with you; do you have to take them back? 

R Jones: It’s on my duty sheet to take them back 

Billy Taylor: Guard1 said there wasn’t many there 

R Jones: 4 plates 

Billy Taylor: It’s not a lot, 4 plates is it? 

R Jones: If I go up there to take plates back & I come back & miss a trailer or something has happened – I mean, I’m not even allowed to shut the gate – you said I locked the gate which was wrong – it was a lie! 

Billy Taylor: I didn’t say that – I read your message 

[RJ - My union rep will remember what he said – this one would have stuck in his mind because it was so ridiculous & I also left a message in book 31 - The message he is referring to was a comment I made after opening the lodge up again - a driver was waiting to leave & he said to me "do you want me to do it again" - I didn't know what he meant so I left a message in the book asking for an explanation - I found out the next day that this driver had driven through the barriers a few nights before - my supervisor used this against me at the disciplinary] 

R Jones: You lied, you lied, you lied at that erm, grievance 

Billy Taylor: So did you 

R Jones: I didn’t 

Billy Taylor: You spoke a load of shite 

R Jones: Billy, you know…… 

Billy Taylor: (Flapping his arms around) Anyway, NO, NO, NO, NO – I’m not going to argue with you 

R Jones: No I won’t – you said I locked them gates & in the book it doesn’t even say I locked the gate – you did say I locked the gates 

Billy Taylor: Locked the barriers, locked the door 

R Jones: I didn’t say I locked the gates, you said I locked the gates 

Billy Taylor: You locked up, why didn’t you say “I didn’t lock the gates?” at the….. 

R Jones: Because it’s in the book & I can’t get at that book, so there’s no need to lie, you lied twice at that grievance 

Billy Taylor: You lied a fuckin million times, your whole thing was a lie, you’re a shit stirring trouble maker.. (clenching his teeth & fists) Right!!! 

[RJ – Ok, accusation 9 at my disciplinary was, according to HR’s notes “Shut gate for 20 mins during working day” – you have already heard my side of this accusation & I have my union rep as a witness – 'my supervisor' said “You locked the gate & went to the directors toilet” – He has just proven again that he is a liar & the disciplinary was a farce] 

R Jones: My job depends on this & your putting my……. 

Billy Taylor: Does it, does it? 

R Jones: Yes it does. My family…… 

Billy Taylor: Since you’ve been here you’ve been a shit stirrer 

R Jones: Have I? 

Billy Taylor: Since you’ve been here, yer 

R Jones: Is that right? 

Billy Taylor: Yes it is! 

[RJ – My supervisor had lied again – In HR’s notes, she states him as saying, “First 2 months of employment ok, no problem” – yet now he is saying he’s had a problem with me from the start, You will also notice that he cannot hold a conversation - he gets angry, agitated & all he can do is insult me] 

R Jones: Are you trying to get me sacked, why, why Billy, why don’t you be a man enough & tell me why are you trying to get me sacked? 

Billy Taylor: You’ve done nothing, hours? You’ve done, I’m not even gonna argue, I’ve been told….  

[RJ - The supervisor is referring to me complaining about working to many hours whilst the other guards had weeks off]

R Jones: But why are you trying to get me sacked Billy? 

Billy Taylor: Since you come here you’ve been a shit stirring, from you, you’re the worst guard we’ve ever had here 

R Jones: Why is that Billy, I’m only trying to do my job. 

Billy Taylor: Hours, hours, hours

R Jones: You only trained me up for 4 nights & everything you got me on 

Billy Taylor: You said it was 2 nights at the meeting, you said 2 nights at the meeting see, you lie, you got 4 nights..  

[RJ - He is made up that I made a mistake - even still, he shouldn't be bragging about giving me 3 days training which is what I actually got when the other guards got 2 weeks each]

R Jones: I still never went outside, You’ve got me on things that were done outside & I haven’t even been trained up outside 

Billy Taylor: You’ve been here for 8 months 

R Jones: It doesn’t matter 

Billy Taylor: I said to the new guy “Where’s the first aid office? And he said ”over there” 

R Jones: Because Guard1 showed him 

Billy Taylor: Your telling me you never went outside 

R Jones: I never went outside, no 

Billy Taylor: Your telling me that in 8 months you don’t know how to get to first aid. 

[RJ –I know where the first aid office is, I’ve treated 4 casualties in the 8 months I’d been there – I was showed the first aid room by a worker who had split his head open & had come to me for first aid. It should also be noted here that my supervisor took me off the first aid course that I was due to attend in January & I was carrying out first aid without holding an up to date certificate.] 

R Jones: I do now… All them things you got on me, you said you had 20 things - why didn’t you bring this 20 up? 

Billy Taylor: Coz I don’t know 

R Jones: Your trying to get me sacked 

Billy Taylor: I don’t want you sacked 

R Jones: You do, you do Billy 

Billy Taylor: You’ve been an arse hole since coming here 

R Jones: You gave me a final warning 

Billy Taylor: That’s right! 

R Jones: My family & everyone suffers because you give me a final warning 

Billy Taylor: Listen, you said yourself… you’re an arse hole… we’re all going to lose our jobs because of you 

R Jones: You’ve always said that, you’re always saying, rock the boat, Don’t rock the boat 

Billy Taylor: That’s right! 

R Jones: I confronted you over Halton Warehouse 

Billy Taylor: You don’t confront me with nothing, you work for me, you don’t confront me. 

R Jones: You should admit fault 

Billy Taylor: I have – I’ve owned up to that 

R Jones: That was my nephew you had in here 

Billy Taylor: What’s it got to do with you? 

R Jones: You used my family so you could stay at home 

Billy Taylor: No I didn’t 

R Jones: Yes you have & since then, you’ve been after me 

Billy Taylor: No, no, no, no I haven’t 

R Jones: You’ve been circling – You circled my work & now all this 

Billy Taylor: You got rid of Frank, coz you were part of the reason Frank left & he’s willing to stand up, you called me a Wanker to **** ***** last night, that’s another thing… 

[RJ – my supervisor is now stating that I got rid of Frank Powel, I was part of the reason he left & he’s willing to stand up – Frank left because he lost the rota, that was my fault because I was the one who complained & therefore I am the reason he left – that’s funny because my supervisor was terrified of Frank, he couldn’t wait for him to leave – the supervisor was so happy to let Frank go that he didn’t even have to give a weeks notice, he just let him go…] 

R Jones: **** *****? **** ***** wasn’t even here…. 

Billy Taylor: you called me a fucking Wanker 

[RJ – This is like being back in infant school, and he is my supervisor] 

R Jones: I don’t remember doing that 

Billy Taylor: Well he remembers coz he told me the other day, fuckin wanker (Shaking his hand to suggest wanking) 

R Jones: I don’t remember doing that 

Billy Taylor: Be man enough to say it to me any time you want

[RJ - This is the start of the supervisor's threats] 

R Jones: No, you be man enough to tell me what you’re doing with my job, if you want me to walk, I’ll walk but I want the truth from you 

Billy Taylor: What do you mean? Listen, I’m not going to argue with you because your fuck all to me.. You work for me 

R Jones: Yer, and you’re the big boss are you? You’re using your power against me 

Billy Taylor: Don’t be stupid, you ask Your brother, Guard1... You’re the only one we’ve ever had this problem with, ask your brother

[RJ - The supervisor honestly thinks that my brother will back him up, he thinks that because he has a problem with you, then everybody else should as well] 

R Jones: That’s because you’re a bully 

Billy Taylor: Yer, I’ve seen that… 

R Jones: You are a bully 

Billy Taylor: Don’t talk so fuckin stupid 

R Jones: You’re a Bully! 

Billy Taylor: What about you & Frank, you done it with Frank and he was going to fill your brother in when he should have fuckin filled you in 

R Jones: Oh, is that right, is that right? 

Billy Taylor: Yer, yer 

R Jones: Because you can’t control your guards 

Billy Taylor: You told me you wound Frank up………………. 

[RJ – My supervisor is now saying that Frank was going to fill my brother in because of me & then says that Frank should have “fuckin filled me in” & then says that I admitted winding Frank up – I hardly know Frank – when he worked in the lodge he was nearly always off because his days off ran into his holidays & when the supervisor started doing the rotas he left & when we did see each other it was for no more than 5 minutes at handover & why is the supervisor saying Frank was going to fill my brother in – what did he know about it – threatening behaviour is gross misconduct – Our supervisor should have had Frank sacked on the spot.] 

R Jones: You do nothing on days, I feel sick to the stomach knowing the general manager pays you a wage for doing nothing 

Supervisor: You’re the worst guard we’ve ever had here 

R Jones: You even bollock us for not drawing lines in the book 

Billy Taylor: So what, that’s right! 

R Jones: You can do that when all you do is stand there warming your arse on the heater.. 

Billy Taylor: So could you, so could you 

R Jones: Lazy Get, How much do you get paid? 

Billy Taylor: A lot more than you 

R Jones: For doing nothing 

Billy Taylor: What do you do? 

R Jones: Do you know what Billy, you’re a little man, you’ll never be a supervisor in your eyes, because your not 

Billy Taylor: Yer, so would you, you can’t do your job coz you’re the biggest shit stirrer we’ve ever had here  

[RJ - I can't do my job because I'm a shit stirrer? I can do my job & that is why I am a shit stirrer because I know the supervisor can't & he's putting the entire factory's workforce at risk] 

R Jones: Why do you keep putting things in the book, why don’t you just ask me to my face? Why are there always question marks in the book? 

Billy Taylor: That’s not the point   

R Jones: Yes it is , you are my supervisor 

Billy Taylor: I put a question, then we have a conversation – we’ve done it like this for 17 years – that isn’t even a legal requirement 

R Jones: It’s the year 2002 now Billy , your stuck in your old ways 

Billy Taylor: So what? Don’t you worry about it! 

R Jones: I should worry about it because you’ve got me up there on things that everyone else has done… Why did you do that Billy?  

Billy Taylor: I’m not going to argue with you, your just a fucking prick…and anytime you wanna call me a prick, anytime you wanna.. Anytime 

[RJ - Because he can't answer my question, he starts threatening me again - this time he tries to get me to start a fight - which I would never do - I've been trained to deal with violent mental patients] 

R Jones: You’ve been here for seventeen years and you didn’t even know how to work the bloody weekend… hey boys any tips for the weekend? 

Billy Taylor: That’s right, I can’t know everything 

R Jones: You sad man. You’re a sad man Billy 

Billy Taylor: Write it down in there - you’re a fucking prick! Any time you wanna start - start anytime, anytime.. 

R Jones: Don’t start threatening me Billy 
Supervisor: I’m not threatening you; you’re the big guy come on… anytime 

[RJ – You will hear my supervisor get very close to the boom mike here because he’s grabbed hold of me after trying to wind me up & he’s put his face up to mine (well, he’s trying anyway – I’m bigger than him) He cannot understand why I haven’t hit him yet – fortunately for Billy, I’m not in any way violent] 

R Jones: Don’t you come up to me like that… who do you think you are you big bully 

Billy Taylor: Frank should’ve fucked you in and why am I a bully? 

R Jones: You are a bully Billy with a capital B your name suits you right you are a bully 

Billy Taylor: And you are a Prick!! You’re the fuckin biggest prick we’ve had here 

R Jones: You know the other ten things you’ve got on me Billy? 

Billy Taylor: Yes 

R Jones: Why don’t you tell me where I’m going wrong so I don’t make them mistakes again? 

Billy Taylor: They are irrelevant 

R Jones: What do you mean irrelevant? If I’m making mistakes you should be able to tell me like “listen mate you’re making mistakes” 

Billy Taylor: I told you last week 

R Jones: Why don’t you tell me the other things, you said you had 20 things on me 

Billy Taylor: I don’t need to 

Billy Taylor: I don’t need to. There is enough now for what’s happening isn’t there! 

[RJ - my supervisor has just admitted that he has enough on me for what is happening now – which was me about to lose my job] 

Billy Taylor: You know.. you going to this union meeting and all the rest of it European directive and all that shit

[RJ - The Working Time Directive is the Law in this country, but this does not apply when you work for MFI Furniture Ltd] 

R Jones: What are you going to get me sacked with Billy? Number 10? Is that why you left that out? 

Billy Taylor: You will have to wait and see 

R Jones: Wait and see? So you are going to get me sacked? 

Billy Taylor: Wait and see! 

R Jones: So I might as well walk mighten I? 

Billy Taylor: If you want 

R Jones: You would rather me do that your going to get me sacked anyway 

Billy Taylor: I don’t care 

R Jones: Don’t you care about my kids at home Stuff like that? 

Billy Taylor: Don’t you think about mine and the rest of the lads in here and Frank's?  
Who nearly lost his fuckin job because of you 

R Jones: Frank's got a good job? 

Billy Taylor: Only because he had to get out of here because of you 

[RJ – Here we go again – is Frank the only person who has supported the supervisor because he’s not mentioning anyone else - Now the supervisor is saying that Frank nearly lost his job because of me - didn't he say before that Frank left because of me??]

R Jones: You know what Billy, No one likes you.. Billy no mates you just come into work to bully people just because you’re a supervisor, you will never be a Manager because you haven’t got the brains to be a manager 

Billy Taylor: I’ve more brains than you 

R Jones: Have you now? No I don’t think so Billy your just a bully and your trying to get me sacked you’re a nothing, 

Billy Taylor: Your talking shite 

R Jones: I do a good job here, I’ve done a better job than you actually in all the years you’ve been here 

Billy Taylor: How do you work that out? 

R Jones: I grit the roadways and get no thanks I MOT'd the car which should have been done a week ago 

Billy Taylor: Kev Sherwin (the gardener) done it, apparently you said to him I’m not men – he told me 

R Jones: No.. I don’t think so Billy but I don’t care because I know I done it! 

***** ******* was driving it with no mot - I stopped him from driving that van with no mot

Billy Taylor: Listen, shut your fucking mouth - I don’t want to talk about it your talking a load of shite.. 

R Jones: ***** ******* was driving that car with no mot, I stopped him from driving it coz there’s no mot 

Billy Taylor: Don’t talk fuckin Well done, well done, thanks very much, thanks very much 

[RJ – You see, the man won’t listen to any good work I do He even tries to give the credit to someone else – he puts stars & comments next to Guard4's work in the book & this is what he says about mine “Shut your fucking mouth, your talking a load of shite” – Is this what a supervisor should behave like?] 

R Jones: What was the worst thing I got dragged up there for, what was the worst thing - that no one else has done? 

Billy Taylor: I’m not going to argue with you 

Billy Taylor: All the others are all good lads you’ve rocked the boat since you come here 

[RJ – Billy answers my question with “the others are good lads & I’ve rocked the boat” – therefore I get disciplined and sacked] 

R Jones: Because of Halton ware house.. that’s what it is isn’t it 

Billy Taylor: No 

R Jones: It is, it is – You said you would never be my friend because of Halton Ware House 

Billy Taylor: I never said that 

R Jones: You did 

Billy Taylor: We got on all right before all that 

R Jones: Yes, we did.. & As soon as I mentioned 'company' Ware House that was it we never spoke to each other 

Billy Taylor: Well… we have spoke 

R Jones: Yer, spoke as in pass the book 

Billy Taylor: You threw that as a dig, you wouldn’t even have mentioned that if it had happened to anyone else 

R Jones: It doesn’t matter, it was my family you involved, you used my family 

R Jones: You used my 15-year-old nephew to stand in here 

Billy Taylor: Your brother reckons he’s 16 

R Jones: So you can stay here & have a drink 

Billy Taylor: I’d had a drink 

R Jones: It doesn’t matter, you should still have come down 

Billy Taylor: My boss tells me that… 

R Jones: You don’t turn around and say to my brother “Can you get your wife in?” 

Billy Taylor: Your wife? 

R Jones: You said…….. 

Billy Taylor: What are you going on about that for Ray, your talking a load of shite it’s got nothing to do with you – were you asked to come in? 

R Jones: Yes I was 

Billy Taylor: But you refused so there you go 

R Jones: I refused because I had had a drink 

Billy Taylor: Well, so had I, So had I!! 

R Jones: So why get a 15 year old boy in? 

Billy Taylor: I didn’t 

R Jones: You did, you said get one of your lads in to my brother 

Billy Taylor: I never, you’re a liar – We’ll ask your brother! 

R Jones: I’m a liar? 

[RJ - My brother knows how old his son is & he knows what happened that night] 

Billy Taylor: You even tried to Blame your brother for that, writing a message for him 

[RJ – This is accusation Number 2 in the disciplinary – he’s pointing at the rota at this point – He’s also changing the subject because he is calling my own brother a liar to my face] 

R Jones: No I didn’t – my brother knows 

Billy Taylor: But Steph's got it down written, 

R Jones: I don’t need to lie Billy 

Billy Taylor: Steph's got it down written… 

[RJ – Everything that HR has written in my file is a pack of lies – just because my supervisor says something doesn’t make it official & legal but he doesn’t understand this – also, I requested my entire work file under the data protection act 88 – so where is all of this written evidence because I am still waiting to receive it – I requested everything held on me including complaints about me personally & my work performance] 

R Jones: You know all my answers to that were the truth 

Billy Taylor: You are a fucking liar, that’s what you are, a shit stirring liar 

R Jones: No Billy, you’re the liar 

Billy Taylor: Well, prove it, prove it.. If you can prove it 

R Jones: Well, you’ve got me on them 10 things 

Billy Taylor: I’ve got a lot more than that 

R Jones: I just want peace of mind 

Billy Taylor: Well, get it out 

R Jones: Are you going to get me sacked, if you are going to get me sacked, well, therefore, I won’t bother pissing about, but if there’s any chance of keeping my job 

Billy Taylor: YOU, LIKE THIS, KEEPING YOUR JOB, YOU, YOU’RE THE WORST FUCKING GUARD WE’VE EVER HAD HERE 

R Jones: How do you work that one out Billy? 

Billy Taylor: Because you’re a trouble making shit stirrer and.. 

R Jones: Yer, because of Halton Warehouse 

Billy Taylor: Don’t be stupid, wasn’t Halton Warehouse 

R Jones: Well what was it over then? 

Billy Taylor: Because you’re just a fucking………. 

R Jones: Why did you take the book home for 2 weeks & find bad work, why did you do that, you planned it didn’t you? 

Billy Taylor: I didn’t - Don’t be stupid, don’t be stupid 

R Jones: Your constructively dismissing me aren’t you? 

Billy Taylor: Well you can get me then can’t you 

R Jones: I don’t need to Billy – you won’t be man enough to tell me straight 

Billy Taylor: Alright 'Shunter'… 

[RJ - A Shunter walked in at this point. My supervisor went very quiet & looked at the book whilst the Shunter walked through the lodge. Because he had heard my supervisor shouting, he hid behind the door instead of leaving.] 

R Jones: Do you know what I mean? You won’t be man enough for once in your life to say something straight to me instead of lying 

Billy Taylor: Your talking a load of shit 

R Jones: Your just lying & I can’t stand liars, you make me sick 

Billy Taylor: Yer a fucking….Well do something about it then you fucking knob head.. Do something about it 

R Jones: Why don’t you just admit that you’re a liar? 

Billy Taylor: You’re a fucking Dick!! An anything… Big man, do something!! 

R Jones: I don’t need to Billy 

Billy Taylor: No, cause you’re a fucking gob shite 

[RJ - At this point, my supervisor grabs hold of me by the jumper again & puts his face right up to mine screaming the above in my face – you can hear how close he gets] 

R Jones: Listen if you want to smack me in the gob by all means do it 

[RJ - The Shunter now appears from behind the door & shouts “eh eh” just as my supervisor is about to hit me – He has now been caught in the act & he changes his attitude to make it look like I was the instigator – He did not know that the Shunter had witnessed the whole thing & that he was being taped] 

Billy Taylor: Go on Ray, try it, big man 

R Jones: No 

Billy Taylor: No, because you’re a shit house 

[RJ – the supervisor has just noticed Mark Illidge, a manager walking towards the lodge] 

R Jones: No 

Billy Taylor: You started it, you’re the fuckin big guy 

R Jones: I am yer 

Billy Taylor: Well do something now 

R Jones: No, you do something. 

Billy Taylor: No, cause you’re a fucking shit house… go on… 

[RJ – He calls me a shit house because I refused to hit him even though he was doing his best to make that happen – Mark Illidge was walking over, the supervisor had his back to the door, he had grabbed hold of my jumper (where the boom mike was) & was pointing in my face – I am bigger than him so I could see Mark coming – He was looking directly in through the glass front as he walked towards us – If the Shunter hadn’t jumped in, my supervisor would not have known that Mark Illidge was witnessing everything – He saw what my supervisor was doing to me but then denied it & I know why – a few days before, security had been told by a manager that any workers leaving before they should do where to be confronted & we were told to report to a manager with them. My brother caught a worker leaving early, so he went out to ask him to report to a manager – the worker threatened my brother in front of Mark Illidge – the worker was screaming into my brother's face “I’m going to bite your nose off” – Mark Illidge, instead of dealing with this violent worker, turned around, said his lift had come & left my brother being threatened with physical violence – I wouldn’t expect Mark Illidge to tell the truth as he had already been given a warning over leaving my brother - Mark & Billy are also good friends.. Mark Illidge is now in the lodge!] 

R Jones: See that Mark – he’s threatening me 

Billy Taylor: I’m not threatening, Mark 

R Jones: You was, you were pointing at me & you were pushing me 

Billy Taylor: You’re a fucking dick, don’t tell lies 

R Jones: Yes I was, I had my hands behind my back like this & you were threatening me 

Billy Taylor: Was yer? 

R Jones: Yes you was you bully! He’s a bully Mark, He’s a nice guy in front of people but he’s a bully, I’m telling you that now! 

Billy Taylor: You’re the Guy gonna do something – Try it 

[RJ – My supervisor is now trying to make it look like I was trying to take him on because he knows Mark saw everything] 

R Jones: I don’t need to Billy, you’ve got me on a final warning – if your gonna get me sacked, 
get me sacked, but I’d rather walk 

Billy Taylor: Go ed, walk then 

R Jones: You lie, you lie 

Billy Taylor: Go ed then cause you’re the biggest fuckin dick we’ve ever had here 

Billy Taylor to Shunter (witness): Go on go, just get out mate 

R Jones: See the way he talks to you “just get out” 

Billy Taylor: They don’t want to be involved… You do that I don’t do that 

[RJ – My supervisor doesn’t want them involved because they are witnesses to his bullying] 

R Jones: It doesn’t matter he is a manager and he seen you poking me & pushing me & challenging me 

Billy Taylor: I never poked you!! You’re a liar… you’re a liar 

Mark Illidge: There was no fingers pointing when I walked in ..so don’t start 

[RJ – No, but there were fingers being pointed in a threatening manner as he was walking over - he admitted witnessing the threatening behaviour by my supervisor to another worker] 

R Jones: He was challenging me.. he was and I have got the Shunter as a witness 

Billy Taylor: No you haven’t, you’ve got no one 

R Jones: I had my hands behind my back asking you why you lied at my disciplinary 

Billy Taylor: You’re a liar, don’t tell lies. And why are you bringing these lads into it? 

[RJ – He’s not willing to get anyone involved because he knows he’s been caught – no one had ever witnessed the supervisor's other side apart from those who have been his target - he is also calling me a liar again] 

R Jones: Coz they walked in at the moment you was threatening me 

Billy Taylor: Walk out… Don’t talk shite 

Billy Taylor: Are you happy with the hand over book have you read it 

R Jones: No you will have to pass it over 

Billy Taylor: Anytime you want to sort do something you let us know! 

R Jones: What’s that? Is that another threat? 

Billy Taylor: No it’s not a threat 

R Jones: Make sure its not Billy 

Billy Taylor: Anytime, big, big… 

R Jones: I don’t like idle threats 

Billy Taylor: It’s not an idle threat, anytime you want, anytime, anytime 

R Jones: You want to take me on?? 

Billy Taylor: Yep, anytime, anytime 

R Jones: And you’re a supervisor asking to take one of your lads on  

Billy Taylor: One of your lads on.. read the book you fucking knob! Write that down at your disciplinary meeting… go ed Mark your alright, you shoot off  

[RJ - This is the 4th time he has verbally threatened me - I am not interested in taking this little man on in a fight because I would kill him with one punch - I just want to keep my job]

R Jones: Your just bullying me Billy, that’s all you do 

Billy Taylor: You talk a load of shite!! 

R Jones: I just want to get on do me job 

Billy Taylor: Yea you keep saying that but you want to try doing it 

Mark Illidge: I don’t think I should leave this situation really 

Billy Taylor: No, I’m shooting off Mark, he’s just trying to catch me unaware 

Mark Illidge: Don’t you want to involve someone else over this? 

Billy Taylor: No you’re all right Mark you won’t be dragged in 

R Jones: You know when you left last night you said you had 20 things on me - You only got me on ten 

Billy Taylor: (Laughing) what do you want another ten  

Billy Taylor to Mark Illidge: I don’t want to talk about it, I already told him I don’t want to talk about it but he’s carrying on the conversation I’m not 

R Jones: Coz you’re a bully 

Billy Taylor: See!! Alright ***** (waves to a co worker) 

Billy Taylor to R Jones: YOU’RE A KNOB HEAD 

R Jones: Very nice coming from a supervisor 

Billy Taylor: So is a Bully, so is bully (speaks to Mark) isn’t it? 

R Jones: It’s not nice Billy, is not nice, you are a bully

Billy Taylor: Don’t be stupid 

R Jones: But at least I don’t come out calling you obscene names like that - your supposed to be my supervisor your not supposed to talk to me like that - I’m asking you what mistakes I’m making and your saying I’m a Dick Head 

Billy Taylor to Mark Illidge: See how he’s calmed down - he wasn’t like that a minute ago was he?? 

Mark Illidge: I wasn’t here a minute ago  

[RJ - Little did my supervisor know, I had got the entire argument on tape - he was trying to make himself look like the victim] 

Billy Taylor: No, go head Mark, your alright I’m getting off 

R Jones: Well you can go now Billy

Billy Taylor: No, no, I’ve explained it as your per message here that says you don’t understand my writing ok 

R Jones: No I don’t understand your writing 

[RJ – My supervisor plays catchphrase in the book, that program where they give you a picture with a message & you have to figure it out] 

Billy Taylor: Alright, you don’t understand that - why didn’t you ask me yesterday before I left or why didn’t you phone me at home 

R Jones: Erm, I did say yesterday 

Billy Taylor: No you didn’t, you’re a liar 

R Jones: There’s another lie there.. 

Billy Taylor: Ok Reply to your message – do you understand that? It’s quite expl, see that, the notes there – there’s 6 lines for you there are you happy with that?

[RJ - My supervisor is trying so hard to make me look like a fool who can't do his job because Mark Illidge has refused to leave] 

R Jones: mm, ok 

Billy Taylor: Alright Smiler (talking to a 12 year old girl who is sat behind the counter with me & my supervisor), err ***** **** stuff in office & **** ******* said he gave you a laminated sheet to give to me last night – where is it 

R Jones: Which laminated sheet?, It’s in there, I passed it on to Guard1, why can’t you see it, it’s there – it was there – Guard1 had it last, I passed it on to Guard1 

Billy Taylor: Alright well I’ll check with him 

R Jones: I told him, I said there it is, there & he goes ok 

Billy Taylor: I’ll ask him tonight 

R Jones: Ok 

Billy Taylor: That’s for Guard2, er, did you view the video last night & if you did, did you see anything on the video? 

R Jones: No 

Billy Taylor: Did you view it? 

R Jones: No 

Billy Taylor: Why? 

Ray Jones: Because I didn’t have time
 
Billy Taylor: Didn’t have time – why didn’t you write didn’t have time to view video? 

R Jones: Because it doesn’t say to view the video 

Billy Taylor: E ar – Ray, Guard1, Guard2 – check area on cctv, and review the video 

R Jones: It doesn’t say that 

Billy Taylor: Check area on cctv & review the video 

[RJ - As you can see - my supervisor's message said nothing about viewing the video or what I was supposed to look for - it was a blatant set up] 

R Jones: I didn’t have time so Guard1 must have done it 

Billy Taylor: No, he didn’t do it 

R Jones: Well it’s got Ray, Guard1, Guard2 

Billy Taylor: Guard1 n Guard2 – your first 

R Jones: I didn’t have time to do it, sorry 

Billy Taylor: Yer well, you can give me an explanation on that later 

R Jones: I just have now 

Billy Taylor: ok we’ve spoke about that, that’s not a good enough explanation – I want it in writing 

R Jones: Ok, great stuff 

Billy Taylor: OK 

R Jones: Is that another bullying tactic there 

Billy Taylor: How is that bullying? 

R Jones: I’ve just explained to you that I didn’t have time to do it – I don’t need to write a report on it 

Billy Taylor: You did, I wanna know this morning if you’d viewed that – I viewed it myself today 

R Jones: Well did you see anything on it Billy? 

Billy Taylor: What’s that got to do with it, I asked you to do it 

R Jones: Did you know what car you were looking for? 

Billy Taylor: yea, yea 

R Jones: I see – see you tomorrow Billy 

Billy Taylor: Same time, same place 

R Jones: Yep, no problem mate – whose is this key? (Pointing to a key on top of the handover book) 

Billy Taylor: I’ll speak to 'that driver' [RJ the one who allegedly told the supervisor I had made 'wanking' suggestion behind his back] later – he’s just handed it in to you 

R Jones: Who’s is it then 

Billy Taylor: Who I’ve just said to yer 

R Jones: Who 

Billy Taylor: ***** the driver 

R Jones: I don’t know, what did ***** say? 

Billy Taylor: The guy disappearing 

R Jones: Did you write it in the book? 

Billy Taylor: It’s in the book already 

R Jones: Where? 

Billy Taylor: Where I’ve just said 

R Jones: You didn’t explain it to me 

Billy Taylor: It’s in the book yer 

R Jones: It’s not in the book Billy? 

Billy Taylor: there it is look (pointing to a message from 2 days ago) 

R Jones: What’s that – **** ***** car keys on hook 1 – but they are here? 

Billy Taylor: He’s just handed them back in 

R Jones: I didn’t notice 

Billy Taylor: Well yer wouldn’t notice coz your thick 

R Jones: Coz I’m what? 

Billy Taylor: Yer thick!! 

R Jones: Why am I thick? 

Billy Taylor: He’s just handed them in to yer saying here’s ***** keys 

R Jones: He didn’t hand them to me, he handed them to you 

Billy Taylor: No, he passed them on to you 

R Jones: You put them on there obviously 

Billy Taylor: Can you understand that message? 

R Jones: Yes I can – thanks Billy 

Billy Taylor: Returned on 01 

R Jones: That’s great that 

Billy Taylor: Ok, yer happy with that? 

R Jones: Yer, I’m happy  

[RJ - Did you hear anyone talking to me about keys on the tape?? No, the supervisor was trying to make me look incompetent again but it backfired on him]
 
Billy Taylor: I’ll expect your 300 messages tomorrow 

R Jones: Alright, coz I’m a good guard 

Billy Taylor to a managers 12 year old daughter: Don’t you be touching no keys – monster, giz another crisp, I’ll bring you a bar of chocolate tomorrow – did you eat that chocolate yesterday – nice wasn’t it? Alright Mark, see yer lad  

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